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cliff. white house negotiators head to capitol hill today. they're going to sit down with congressional leaders and talk about specific proposals from both sides for an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins from us washington with those details. tracie, good morning. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. so, it may be no deal today, but perhaps moving forward on these spending cuts and tax increases that are looming at the end of the year. some very specific meetings with a handful of lawmakers who could have a huge impact on your paycheck come january 1st. . treasury secretary tim geithner and white house legislative chief rob neighbors bring the president's deficit-cutting plan to capitol hill today. >> i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit. >> reporter: republicans want to know, does that approach include the government spending less money? >> we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. >> reporter: white house negotiators are meeting with boehner and top republicans and democrats. executives
this go around. reduction offer right off te fiscal cliff. >>> the white house has booted the gop's new deficit reduction off the fiscal cliff. the 10-year plan promises to shave $2.2 trillion through a combination of entitlement cuts and tax reform measures. but house republicans still refuse to meet president obama's bottom line. letting the bush tax cuts expire for the wealthy. in the statement, the white house said that the plan fails the balance test and sticks the middle class with the bill. >>> the gay marriage in california is still on hold tonight. the u.s. supreme court could have announced today whether they would review prop 8. instead the justices announced that they will wait until friday to discuss whether to take up the case. legal experts say the delay ruling means nothing. >> it's like we have so many cases on the docket. let's put this one off next week, no big deal. that's really what happened. it really isn't the dog that didn't bark, but it's the case that has not been resolved yet and we're still waiting. >> professor little says he expects if the court grants a r
that all eyes in the fiscal cliff spinoff are now turn on the white house. to take all of this up tonight, the politics and policy in the games being played by both sides in washington dc, we will be joined by richard shelby, the ranking republican of the banking committee. he joins us. congressman devin nunes, chairman of the ways and means committee to tell us what kind of effort it will take and who will be blamed for failure to stop these tax hikes and trillion dollar budget cuts. bradley graham is among our guests tonight. here are the details on exactly what secretary geithner has proposed on behalf of the president to avoid the fiscal cliff. according to the republicans in that meeting, the offer includes $1.6 trillion in new revenue. that is higher taxes, raising tax rates, and taxes on investment income. at least $50 million in new stimulus spending in the next fiscal year alone. mind you, of course, the republicans looking for spending cuts as an offset to their agreement to raise taxes. the only spending cuts in the plan come from cutting medicare and other programs by 400 bill
on the solutions for the fiscal cliff. they will meet with white house speaker john boehner. in the meantime the white house is rejecting the latest proposal. house republicans send it to the white house yesterday their republicans plan does not increase tax rates which the white house insists must be included in any deal. >>> they are trying to make california public schools green. they will update the efficiency of public schools in california. it's being introduced by an assembly woman. the recent funding would come from proposition 39 and it comes from a fund. >>> police say 44-year-old john roady robbed the class sunday night. he took computers and other electronics. police recovered some of those during his arrest. he was on probation for burglary and now he faces new charges. >>> we have a car versus a dear at the paradise east bound. it is backed up and running, here is a look at the east shore freeway and mcarthur maze no dislace, traffic is flowing -- no delays, traffic is flowing well in both directions. >>> light rain is trying to develop up in lake men seen know, rain is slowly
republicans unveiling a bold proposal to avoid a so-called fiscal cliff. the white house didn't waste any time attacking it. kelly wright is live in washington with more on this. good morning, kelly. >> good morning to you. the back and forth is continuing in a letter with president obama. american people expect leaders to find fair middle ground with the nation's most pressing challenges. with that they propose is a counter over for the fiscal cliff. the republican plan has will00 billion for tax freerm 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts and 300 billion in discretionary cuts. the proposal falls short of what the president wants and cannot be taken seriously. >>> we understand they don't agree with everything the president has put on the table but we haven't seen alternatives for that. they have spoken about an avenue and that challenge is welcome. republican leaders have been adamant they don't believe rates ought to go up on the top 2 percent of wealthiest americans. the american people overwhelmingly disagree. the rates have to rise and republicans need to acknowledge that. >> the major
tells us, there's still a disagreement over how to avert the "fiscal cliff." >> reporter: three republican and three democratic governors gate the president their take on how to avoid the "fiscal cliff" this morning at the white house. >> we're not sort of saying it should be that plan or that plan. i think what we all agree on is something has to get done. >> as governors we think it's important that we're part of the discussions both in terms of the impact it has on our finances and our economies. >> reporter: state government cost lose much-needed federal aid if democrats and republicans don't reach a deal to stop automatic spending cuts before the end of the year. the other issue is taxes. congressional republicans want bush-era tax cuts extended for all americans. president obama says those tax cuts must expire for households making $250,000 or more. >> it's a position that is supported by a majority of the american people. and, you know, we need to see from republicans an acknowledgement of that. >> reporter: the gop proposal that the white house quickly rejected closes t
-style event to sort of drum up support for what the white house wants to do on fiscal cliff. you know, the president after he won re-election essentially said i know lots of you didn't vote for me. i've listened to you. i take your concerns to heart and we're going to move forward. does that apply to congressional republicans, kristen? does he hear what john boehner has to say? does he internalize it? do we hear something acknowledging republican resistance to what he laid out today in pennsylvania or not? >> reporter: well, i think he certainly is hearing and listening to john boehner, but he also believes that he has the upper hand having just won re-election and this trip to pennsylvania today is sort of a larger pr campaign that the president and the white house have been embarking on to get voters, to pressure congressional republicans to get onboard with the president's plan of increasing taxes on wealthier americans. he's traveling to pennsylvania today. he has had had business leaders here at the white house, also leaders of the progressive movement to sort of build support fo
of the white house and congress to resolve differences that would avoid the fiscal cliff. that is $1.2 trillion in automatic budget cuts and $600 billion in tax hikes that would result from the expiratin on december 31, te consequences would simply be devasting. the economic impact on the country and the american people would mean the loss of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of jobs. e very likely onset of yet another recession. the white house timothy geithner on capitol hill today. he went there empty-handed to meet the party leaders. house speaker john boehner who has already offered to raise tax revenue finds himself not in a negotiation, but rather competing in the white house media campaign. this is how speaker boehner reacted earlier today to the demands of the white house that were laid out by timothy geithner in a closed-door meeting. the treasury secretary reiterating the president's call for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue and timothy geithner rrently offering nothing in return. in lieu of federal pending. >> first, despite the claims that the presint supports a balanced appro
in washington and the fiscal cliff looming, he says the white house will only agree to a plan that including higher tax rates. >> if they are going me -- to force higher rates on all americans because their tax rates go up on 2% of americans, that's a choice we'll have to make. >> one1.6 trillion in tax revenue, cuts to medicare. he insists the bush era tax cuts must expire. >> what we did is put forward a very comprehensive, mix of savings and tax reforms that help us put us back on a path to stabilizing our death and living within our means. >> rebel cans did not welcome -- republicans did not welcome the proposal. >> i think it's essentially a rerun of his revenue proposals. they are 1.6 trillion in revenues and tax increases. >> and they're expressing frustration with the lack of progress. >> i would say we're nowhere. he's pointing out the administration did offer six hundred billion in cuts to healthcare. he remains optimistic a deal will be made. i'm elizabeth reporting. >> the u.s. supreme court could announce tomorrow whether it will hear appeal on several cases involving same sex m
lawmakers have less than a month to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. both sides seem to be digging in for a fight. the white house saying it will not agree to a deal without raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. the gop says they want to see changes made to medicare, medicaid and social security. here is republican senator kelly ayotte of new hampshire. >> i was disappointed by the president's proposal. i think it is essentially a rerun of his budget proposal. i mean the revenue proposals are $1.6 trillion in revenue and tax increases. it is a massive tax increase but also, also not significant and meaningsful entitlement reforms. jon: a piece today in the "wall street journal" says more is at stake than just the fiscal cliff. quote, democratic lawmakers and party strategists say the success of his second term could ride on how this early battle unfolds. if mr. obama can cement a bipartisan deal to his liking many believe his approach to the negotiations could serve as template for tackling major issues that could play out over the next four years. yet for many other democrats
does not take action to stop them. going over the fiscal cliff could trigger a recession, some say. >>> mitt romney was at the white house earlier today for a lunch meeting with president obama. his invitation keeps the promise he made when he declared victory on election night to talk with the gop candidate about areas where they have common interests. the two were to talk over lunch in the white house private dining room. the president's press secretary said the president didn't have any particular agenda, and it was closed to the media. >>> out of service. we were hear when police tested this emergency phone. we'll show you what happened and tell you why this phone is just part of a larger problem. >>> more specifics on when the next storm arrives in your neighborhood and how much rain it will bring. >>> as the dump truck continued forward, it hit nine other vehicles, so 11 vehicles totaled. >> a truck crashed in the east bay. the simple explanation for what caused it. >>> an unusual accident involving a big rig. the truck driver said he had a sneezing fit while behind the wheel
will be launched over the fiscal cliff if congress and the white house can't agree on a resolution. president obama and house speaker boehner took the fight to the podiums. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you for just a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle-class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. that -- that doesn't make sense. >> it's not a serious proposal. and so, right now, we're almost nowhere. >> joining me now is nancy cook, budget and tax correspondent for national journal. welcome back, nice to see you. >> you, too. >> let's take a look at white house propose. $1.6 trillion in tax increases, $400 billion in savings. is that how this $1.6 trillion is going to be reached? >> the way the $1.6 trillion will be reached is primarily through the expiration of the bush-era tax cuts for the top 2% of taxpayers. then there would be some other increases in taxes on investment income, again for people above people making more than $250,000, and also some capping of deductions. so there's a, you know,
to go before the united states faces the fiscal cliff, the white house has rejected a proposal from house republicans to prevent tax hikes and spending cuts at the end of the year. no formal talks between the two sides are scheduled today. will go outside the nation's capital to get your voice involved. republicans -- democrats -- independents -- send us a tweet, post your comments on facebook, or send us an e-mail. we begin with some of the papers across the country today and how this latest proposal from house republicans is playing out in the papers. courtesy of "the atlantic journal-constitution" -- here is "the denver post" -- finally, here is "of the arizona republic" -- here is "the washington post" on what is inside this deal -- we want to get your take on this. what do you think? ted in new york, a democratic caller. what do you think? caller: good morning. i do not think it goes far enough. i think it was greenspan that i heard last week said in a discussion panel that a recession as a result of going over the fiscal slope would be a small price to pay to pay back all the
the president's fiscal cliff plant to republican house speaker john bain and not buying it. he just said white house needs to get serious and the markets are turning lower. also had fiscal cliffs survival kit home additions that you contain right now to prepare. dennis: blamed superstorm sandy. retailers playing the blame game for week november same store sales. analysts already asking what it really the storm or the economy did pull those numbers down? cheryl: we are watching a power ball conference this hour with more details expected on the two winners of the $580 million record jackpot from missouri and arizona. of gone home to buy my ticket. dennis: stocks every 15 minutes, nicole petallides, for the stock exchange where stocks the suddenly lower on more cliffphobia. nicole: i can say in the wall street traders saying every headline out of washington moving this market, fiscal cliff phobia is a good way to say it, whatever you want to call it we have seen so many dramatic moves in the market, a particular companies making moves in preparation or all been wary about the fiscal cliff, let's
averting the fiscal cliff, but he's just not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisan group of governors. >> i know that the president wants a deal and he didn't try to handicap it. >> reporter: earlier this week, he told so-called middle class americans on twitter, keep pressure on congress. he's even ventured outside the beltway rallying supporters to do just that. >> i'm going to be asking for you to be making your voices heard. >> reporter: why isn't he calling speaker boehner? >> we speak frequently. >> reporter: when will the two of you sit down in a room? >> i don't think the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. >> reporter: in part, the white house was burned with the negotiations in 2011 when lots of meetings failed to stave off a fiscal nightmare. but there's another strategy at play. some in the administration say they learned in the first term the best way to break washington stalemates, rally the public to their cause. here's how the president put it to cbs news. >> so getting out of this town, spending mo
on fox news sunday. discussing the stalemate of the fiscal cliff between white house and republicans on capitol hill. i sat down with the anchor chris wallace to hear more about the exclusive interview interviews. >> you had two key players. >> we had tim geithner the point man for president. and john boehner, the point man for the congressional and house republicans. >> geithner made the offer to boehner on thursday. boehner said, tells us, he was flabbergasted and said you can't be serious. it called for doublebe what the president talked about in public. not $800 billion in new revenue but $1.6 trillion in revenue. only $600 million in entitlement and spending cuts. well, that is not one to one or three to one. more revenue than spending cuts. they are really far away now. i understand negotiations. i understand opening bid. for first time, it occurred to me they might not get it done. >> you get a sense hearing from both of them that is a real possibility. what do you make of the negotiation of the tactic? it seems like what secretary geithner behalf of the president brought to t
white house negotiators head to capitol hill today to continue talks about avoiding the fiscal cliff. tracie potts has the latest on the fight to keep your tax breaks from disappearing. >> reporter: treasury secretary tim geithner and white houlegis chief rob neighbors bring the deficit-cutting plan to capitol hill today. >> i'm very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our defic deficit. >> reporter: republicans want to know does that approach include the government spending less money. >> we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. >> reporter: white house negotiators are meeting with boehner and top republicans and democrats, executives from big companies heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least one thinks there could be a deal here. >> if i were involved in negotiation like this and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say that an agreement is reachable. >> i'm hopeful but i wouldn't put me anywhere near optimistic. >> reporter: one conservative republican is suggesting while negotiations continue on w
's economy goes over the so-called fiscal cliff. the white house and congressional republicans said to be deadlocked. president obama released his plan. it includes 1.6 trillion dollars in new tax increases. 50 billion in new stimulus spending. and stimulus, and new power to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval. tim geithner, john boehner appearing with chris wallace on fox news sunday. >> we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. we put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to get this question resolved but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. they have actually asked for more revenue than they have been asking the whole entire time. >> in kind of a tough position now. it is going to be, obviously a little hard for them now. they're trying to figure out where they go next. we might need to give them a little more time to let them go next. we did what you expect from us. we laid out a very detailed, carefully designed set of spending savings and tax changes that help put us back on a path to fiscal responsibility. bill: where are we
for its lackluster performance. republicans submitted their solution to the fiscal cliff yesterday. white house and other democrats dismissed it immediately. take a look at how that affected the market this morning. not at all. the dow is up 43. 13,000 is where we are. liz macdonald says we will see is a last minute deal, christmas eve, new year's eve, on the fiscal cliff. we shall see. next, a special early my take. i am fired up about the prospect of ambassador anna wintour. i couldn't wait for the normal time. i'm going to do it early. stay right there. and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. that's why ally has ia raise your rate cd.n. ally bank. your money needs an ally. stuart: california high taxes, strict green laws, a liberal supermajority in the statehouse, not exactly business friendly. that's why so many businesses are leaving. they are going to places like phoenix. so we're going to talk to the mayor of phoenix. greg stanton, what is he offering to the california refugees to get them to come
full-fledged fiscal cliff. >> chris cizilla, what about bringing up the debt ceiling as they did in this opening bid for the white house. they say that this has to be part of any agreement. the president does not want to face this couple of weeks down the road in january. >> and understandably so, andrea, but i -- i guess you never say never, and so let's put it there. i can't imagine that republicans would give on this -- this is something that has always been done by congress. push back and say something always done by congress and until the last few years was never controversial in the least and looks like it will be controversial certainly the next debt limit in late february, early march. i can't imagine, it seems like a bridge too far. it seems like you put it out there, and use it knowing you're not going to get it, use it as one of the concessions you're willing to give to get to a deal. i'm with chuck. i still remain somewhat optimistic, but i do think there is -- you can make a political argument that going over the fiscal cliff, may be in democrats' best political inte
out their fiscal cliff counteroffer to the white house. includes $800 billion in new tax revenue. that is roughly half what the president was aiming for. 300 billion in discretionary spending cuts. 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts. now the white house responding just moments ago saying quote, the republican letter released today does not meet the test of balance. they don't like it. i'm joined by dan mitch chill from the cato institute for more on this. dan what do you think. these are a lot of things to occur just in the past few hours. do you feel like there is progress being made? >> there is progress but progress in the wrong direction. the number one thing to understand already even if all the tax cuts were made permanent, tax revenues projected to grow by 6.2% a year. so what they're really debating about how much should it grow even faster than that in order to enable bigger government. 100% of our fiscal problem is on the spending side. obama is being very inflexible on that. republicans i'm afraid will get taken to the cleaners just what happened in 1990 when read
's plan to avert the fiscal cliff. guess what, the white house rejected it, calling the gop proposal unbalanced and not serious. translation? no tax hikes on the wealthy so democrats said forget about it. we thought you should take a look. it totals $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. the part that stood out to us was $600 billion in proposed savings in medicare reforms. how? in part by raising the age of eligibility to 65 to maybe 67. turning down the gop proposal, dan pfieffer said, quote, it provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will close or which medicare savings they would achieve." let's head now to the white house and dan lothian. the white house will not offer a counter proposal, right? what's going on here? >> reporter: well, you know, i think the white house is digging in. the president said early on in this process that he would only sit down and really move forward, negotiate on this in any meaningful way if the tax hikes for the wealthy expired. and republicans have been pushing back on that -- tax breaks rathe
court reforms. >>> hopes for a budget deal to avoid the "fiscal cliff" inched stocks higher today. a pair of strong economic reports also brightened the mood. the dow closed up 37 points. nasdaq gained 20. s&p added 6. >>> republican lawmakers and the white house are working overtime tonight to avoid the "fiscal cliff" stepping up phone calls and meetings within the last 24 hours. cbs reporter danielle nottingham is on capitol hill where the two sides are still talking. >>> reporter: president obama dispatched his chief negotiator tim geithner to capitol hill to work on a "fiscal cliff" deal. house speaker john boehner came out of his meeting with the treasury secretary demanding the white house get serious about spending cuts. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> reporter: if a compromise isn't reached soon, automatic tax hikes and steep budget cuts will kick in january 1. geithner moved from one end of the capitol to the other encouraging lawmakers to sign off on an extension of middle class tax c
meetings are today. >> the latest on the fiscal cliff talks. competing plans from the white house and republicans will talk of compromise. the white house plan raises taxes on any income over $250,000. with 350 billion in cuts to medicare and 200 billion in new stimulus and an infrastructure spending. the republicans counter office has deeper cuts to medicare and reduces the social security cost of living increase. but it has no tax increases. if it raises revenue through closing tax loopholes and deductions. the white house immediately rejected the republicans' proposal. the president is saying that he would not accept a proposal without a tax increase for wealthier americans. >> the senate has approved president obama stores to be the top commander in afghanistan. lawmakers cleared the way for general joseph dunford, the assistant commanding of the marine corp's, to take over as head of the u.s. coalition forces in afghanistan. done for what replaced general john allen, the current commander who has been -- >> let's take a live look outside and mount cam. we have some salts and
're getting more reaction now from the white house to the fiscal cliff counteroffer that house republicans have put forward today. let's go back to our chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin. she has new information for us. jessica, we heard white house's blistering public response to speaker boehner's counterproposal. but will they sit down to actually negotiate where things stand now? >> reporter: well, wolf, in response to this offer, they are not going to sit down and negotiate. they will be open to talking. they will be open to receiving phone calls. but, you know, the white house has said that if speaker boehner presents a counteroffer in response to what secretary geithner presented last week, they will begin negotiations, they think this is not a serious offer and so they say this will not be the start of those negotiations. >> what is the one thing the white house hates the most about this republican counterproposal? >> reporter: the fact that it does not raise rates on the wealthy. they say that it actually would reduce rates on the wealthy. they argue that it also doesn
the white house has rejected the counteroffer from house republicans in the fiscal cliff negotiations. let's take a look at the gop offer. this is their version. it cuts $2.2 trillion from the deficit over ten years. that number also includes entitlement reforms raising the age for social security and medicare and so forth as well as $800 billion that they say they would throw into the pot in new tax revenue that would come from tax reform, from cutting tax loopholes and the like. joined now, very pleased to have with us california republican ken mccarthy, the house majority whip. congressman, welcome. good to see you this morning. >> thanks for having me. martha: so you put your number out there, you know, all kinds of response across the board this morning saying that it is, you know, equally laughable, ridiculous. there's no way that the white house is going to counter that offer. what do you think about that? >> well, i think that's sad, because think about what this president said when he campaigned. he said he wanted a balanced approach. he said he wanted 800 billion in revenue and 8
the democrats of not offering any serious proposals to avoid going over the fiscal cliff and shortly after the white house and the democrats answered that the republicans had not offered any of their own plans. is this something that's going to be able to be taken care of while you're still a representative or is it going to land in your lap when you move to the other chamber? >> you know, i hope we get it done, obviously. we want to avoid the cliff. it is a little troubling that we don't have any real plans or offers on the spending side. i think on the revenue side it's pretty clear by knew republicans are willing to give up more revenue, but we've got to see a balance. there's got to be spending cuts and if those have been offered, i'm not sure what they are. >> suarez: are you one of those members who's staked out a position on whether it has to be rates or effective revenue and not rates? >> well, i think it can be effective revenue. obviously it depends on where you put the level of deductions that can be taken. so i'd rather not raise rates at all. i think it can be done without tha
-called fiscal cliff. they will discuss now to avert tax increases and spending cuts due to begin in january. >>> little progress in talks between the white house and house speaker boehner. >>> if you the past few days wishing you had -- california may be getting into the big game power ball played in 42 other states. lottery officials meet today expected to adopt regulations to join power ball on the heels of the staggering jackpot of 579 million dollars two winning tickets were drawn, sold in arizona and missouri. california retailers could begin selling the $2 tickets next year would it bring in 90 to 120 middles to help supplement education spending in -- million dollars to help supplement education in -- spending. >>> let's see if we are winners the weather race today. i think we are if you count raindrops. >>> we are still looking at two bigger storms headed our way, light showers this morning, live doppler showing most activity in the north bay up through cloverdale, ukiah, a few showers offshore also napa and snow may. if you are headed out highway 101 and 121 on the wet side, be car
weeks ago and from nbc news, the g.o.p. says white house offer on fiscal cliff is unbalanced. bret, tell me i'm wrong here, it seems like the media is setting unto blame the republican for this outrageous offer from the president, go. >> what's the offer? what? >> a massive tax increase, no entitlement reform and no restraint on borrowing. now, there's an offer. >> in other words, in other words, there's no plan. this should be a story that the whole debate has been going on for two years about having a package of spending cuts to go along with the package of tax increases. and now, we've got the senate saying, that the one problem, entitlements is now off the table, and meaning they're no longer serious and the white house saying we don't have plans to cut anything. in other words, there is no plan. that should be the story. and just like, stuart, the entirety of 2012 campaign. nobody brought up that the barack obama didn't have a plan the entire-- it's mind-boggling. stuart: i'm looking at the so-called offer, if implemented would put mesh-- measured america straight into recession. an
ago. he was asked flat out is the white house ready to go over the fiscal cliff and boom he says, absolutely, as if that is a good thing. i mean there are defense contractors who are going to be laying off workers, there are all kinds of negative ramifications to all of this. but the white house apparently is ready to take the jump. >> well, they are certainly ready to say it. the republicans have a weaker hand than i thought they would originally have about a couple months ago, but the idea that president obama wants to start his second term by plunging the country into a recession, a huge sell off in the stock market, and by being perceived as generally sort of willing to play chicken with the economy doesn't sound like a brilliant political move to me. jon: you think that's all talk? >> i think it's a game of chicken, i really do. i think that the republicans would probably get a lot of blame in the beginning, and that's maybe what they are thinking of and they are trying to scare the republicans, but over the long term there is just no way this administration wants to go over
the conversation on the fiscal cliff. meantime we're awaiting new reaction from white house press secretary jay carney. there is a live look at the podium in the west wing. you can see it is empty right now. jay carney should be stepping up to the microphone momentarily and we expect the topic a is going to be the fiscal cliff and the white house position on it. let's talk about it with angela mcglowan, fox news political analyst. you have been in washington. >> for a very long time. jon: i'm not going to say that. you're way too young to have been there a long time but you know how these things work. >> yes. jon: is this all political posturing? is there stuff really going on behind the scenes that we don't know about or hear about? >> this is political theater at its best. anytime both sides offer a plan that's when the negotiating process starts. the optimist here. i do believe we will come to a deal, jon. i think you will see a lot more political posturing but you are having policy wonks behind the scenes crunching the numbers so they can work out a deal. jon: well the president has said th
ticking in washington in the fiscal cliff looming closer by the day. the treasure secretary says the white house will only agree to a plan that including higher tax rates. >> if they are going to force higher rates on virtually all- americans, because they are want thing tax rates to go up on 2% that is a choice they will have to make. >> calling for an additional $1.6 trillion in tax revenue. cuts to medicare and $50 billion in stimulus spend approximating. he insists the bush tax cuts must expire for the healthyy individuals. >> it is carefully designed mix of savings and tax reforms to put us back on a path to stabilizing our debt and living within our means. >> the republicans did not welcome the proposal. >> i was disappointed by the proposal. i think it say rerun of the budget proposal. the revenue is 1.6 trillion in revenue and tax increases. >> and expressing frustration -- and they are expressing frustration. >> i would say we are nowhere, period, nowhere. >> reporter: they disagree pointing out the administration did offer $600 billion in cuts to health care and other programs.
a private lunch at the white house today. it suspected they will be sharing ideas about the fiscal cliff and growing speculation there may be a role for romney in the obama administration. >>> if you played powerball in arizona and missouri, you could be filthy rich. two tickets, one in each state, matched all six numbers. the holders will split a record $588 million. >> how long do you think before they come forward? >> i don't know. i would wait personally. >> a couple weeks, yep. >>> new york city nanny accused of murdering two children in her care has pleaded not guilty to those crimes. the killings of the children last month sent shockwaves throughout a city where many working parents rely on nannies to watch their kids. it sent shockwaves across the nation. yet's hearing took place in a hospital where the nanny is being treated for self-inflicted stab wounds. >>> seattle police released dash cam video of a suspect allegedly beaten by officers during his arrest. he was held down on the back on the hood of a car. his attorney says excessive force was used. >>> the retail chain has be
ne geithner announced of of the white house that we would, quote, absolutely go over the fiscal cliff which would trigger tax cuts and spending increases unless taxes increase on the top two percent of wage earnings. >> i want you you to understand when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy. if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. >> all right. it appears the very definition of the american dream is now being rewritten by president barack obama. now, today our commander-in-chief publicly said he's not going to play games with the fiscal cliff, but that is just not reality. right now the president is playing a very dangerous game of chicken and this is with your paycheck and the american dream. meanwhile, the republicans have allowed themselves to get caught in a circular firing squad. they're negotiating publicly among themselves while true conservatives and tea party members are being removed from ke
% savings. melissa: as washington is in the middle of this tumultuous fiscal cliff negotiations from a white house looking for more money in the terms of emotions the aid request rebuilding efforts. still willing from super storm sandy here in the northeast. peter barnes in washington with the latest on that effort. speaker according to "the new york times" for white house will be looking for about $50 billion to help rebuild from hurricane sandy. officials testifying declined to comment that number but they did say the white house will be sending in disaster relief bill up to congress by the end of the week. the three hardest hit states: new york, new jersey and connecticut alone are seeking $80 billion in federal help. the administration is teeing up a big request. >> much of the impact of sandy go beyond fema programs. fema's assistance is limited, maximum benefits of individual family could receive is about $31,000 if they have no assurance. others that will not rebuild destroyed or damaged home to did not have insurance. >> woke up to this headline. u.s. denies aid to the maryland storm
and everyone else who has come through capitol hill and the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff. for the first time since this drama began to play out on a very public stage, yesterday there were no substantive negotiations or conversations whatsoever, none at all. and here is what the public thinks about all this. if, in fact, the nation does go off the fiscal cliff and negative consequences ensue, by a two to one ratio, by the most recent poll, it will blame republican, not the white house. the white house knows this, believes it's in a strong position and intends to use that leverage when and if negotiations begin. for "cbs this morning," major garrett at the white house. >>> federal health officials are watching a medical crisis, an earlier-than-usual flu season. the south is already hit hard, one month earlier. three school systems in tennessee say so many teachers and students are sick, they've closed for the rest of the week. health officials also say this year' flu strain is making patients sicker than normal. the good news, this year's vaccines seem to work well against
did hold a fiscal cliff phone call. but there is still one big problem. the white house still doesn't want to budge. >> we saw no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2%. >> gretchen: but isn't government spending the real problem? why aren't we hearing a lot about that, a lot of dough being thrown around. >> brian: how much do you know about the fiscal cliff? >> it reminds me about something i probably learned in school. but some type of cliff, the economy going pow. >> isn't that the government? this is embarrassing. >> brian: how many people really know what it is and what it means? we hit the streets. >> steve: indeed, and bob costas and his no spin zone to defend his half time gun control rant. what did he say and what does former nfl player think? he will join us live to react this hour. "fox & friends" hour two for thursday starts right now. >> gretchen: i thought the same thing that scarlet johansson was in times square answering ainsley's question. i thought what, a lucky day for steve and brian that yesterday they would have petra an
. president and speaker hold a fiscal cliff call. there is a problem, the white house doesn't want to budge. >> we face no agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top two percent. >> gretchen: so is it really progress or a stand still. >> steve: meanwhile the reverend behind this nativity scene. live pictures and he has a message from the federal government. merry christmas, government. you are not the real savior. the reverend joins us live this christmas season. >> brian: super storm sandy couldn't wipe out his home but something else did. >> she said to me. are you sure your house is gone. you misplace a pen and pencil but not a house. >> gretchen: how the entire house vanished. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: a house is something that is not easy to misplace. if you leave it there, you come back and it is there. >> gretchen: you hope that happens. we'll fill you in on the details. in the meantime what happen in a phone call. a lot can happen, right. you can get in fights and agreements and compromise. hum, i am not so sure that h
at the white house with more. >> reporter: exactly one month ago to avoid the fiscal cliff and after a period of optimism and what we have right now is a typical white house standoff. visiting a toy factory outside philadelphia, president urged congress to act and avoid the fiscal cliff. if not, taxes go up for everyone, including the middle class. >> that is like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> reporter: the president has started a new campaign for votes in congress. a grassroots effort on twitter and a friday trip in swing distri districts. allow rates to rise on the upper 2% of earners while extending lower rates for everyone else. >> it is not acceptable for you for the handful of republicans and democrats in congress to hold tax cuts hostage because they don't want tax rates to go up on upper income folks. >> reporter: mr. obama's opening bid includes $1.6 trillion in new revenue. half from higher rates in the wealthy. cuts in medicare and $50 billion in new infrastructure spending. when tim geithner laid out the plan for mitch mcconnell, aides on b
leaders about averting the fiscal cliff and achieving the balanced approach the white house says it wants. and i made clear that we put real concessions on the line by putting revenues on the table right up front. unfortunately many democrats continue to rule out sensible spending cuts that must be part of any significant agreement that will reduce our deficit. mr. bowles himself said yesterday there's been no serious discussion on spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy, it will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes, to replace the sequester, and pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. we are the only one was a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect the american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. but without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it's going to be impossible to address our country's debt crisis and get our economy going again and create jobs.
that fiscal cliff. so far republicans are sticking to their guns. the white house is stepping up negotiations. tim geithner is set to meet top leaders to look closer at the numbers. mike em an mule has more from capitol hill. >> there's a great discussion about raising taxes. many talk about entitlement reform but with the nation's debt at 16 trillion and counting we asked lawmakers what they are willing to cut to get a deal. >> republicans offered a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff through significant spending cuts. >> we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied serious spending cuts to avert the crisis. >> the bipartisan bowl deficit plan had savings worth pursuing. >> they identified $1.1 trillion tax expenditures, benefits, deductions, credits and the like that could be cut as part of a grand bargain. i think we ought to look at that flat ten the code simplify it. >> harry reid told reporters yesterday he would like to get credit for what congress has previously cut. >> we have already done more than a billion dollars worth of cuts. >> the top democrat in the house took a simila
, saying he is slightly pessimistic. he says there is 2/3 chance they will go off the fiscal cliff. that is not what the markets want to hear, jon. jon: not at all. ed henry at the white house. if jay carney relents and let you into the meeting give us a shot. we'll be on air. >> reporter: i will give you a copy of the menu. jon: please do, thanks. jenna: we'll forget about politicians just for a moment. i promise we'll return there surely over the next couple hours. let's talk about some renewed private sector pushing to really slash the federal budget. a group called citizens against government waste is calling for nearly $2 trillion in cuts the next five years. doug mckelway is live with the story. doug, how realistic is that goal? >> reporter: how realistic is the goal? not realistic at all. let's be honest about this. at least it is a benchmark we can strive for. citizens against government waste went through the federal budget, they identified $392 billion in cuts. $1.8 trillion in cuts over next five years. which totals 11% of the federal budget, none which touches the most
hard numbers from the white house to resolve the fiscal cliff crisis landed with a thud on capitol hill. congressional republicans called it an insulting joke. here's the big picture-- $4 trillion of deficit reduction over the next 10 years. it includes $1.6 trillion in higher taxes on households make manage more than $250,000. there's also $400 billion in cuts to entitlement programs, like medicaid and medicare, as well as others. there is also fresh new aending. $50 billion next year in stimulus spending, all for infrastructure. the white house calls this an opening bid. house republicans call it a rehash of old ideas and also object to the idea of a white house asking a permanent legislative remedy to raising the debt ceiling, all of it, the republicans say rather, is unacceptable. now much of this was conveyed in a 28-minute phone conversation yesterday between president obama and house speaker john boehner. both sides describe that conversation, scott, as direct and candid. those are words custom early reserved for diplomacy between sworn adversaries and tonight that might be where
presented the latest white proposal on avoiding the fiscal cliff to house speaker john boehner thursday --house speaker john boehner says that the idea of boosting revenue by 1.6 trillion over the next decade would be a 'crippling blow' to the economy. >> ".we're at a stalemate.. .let's face it...." >> "vhope that's a figure of speech. shouldn't be talking about a stalemate." we should not even think of that term of a stalemate. >>catherine: the key sticking point....taxes. democrats want to extend bush-era tax cuts for the middle class...while allowing rates to jump republicans don't want a tax rate increase on anyone. period. the white house is hoping that the fact the president is taking his case to the public will help build momentum....and pressure congress to act. of course the real negotiating is going on behind closed doors.. and with 32 days before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in....there are few signs of progress... catherine heenan, kron 4. >> congressional insiders that a deal could be reached before the deadline we will be right back. ♪ aids is not going to take my ba
on the fiscal cliff talks. competing plans from the white house and republicans was little talk of compromise. if the white house plans raises taxes on any and come over to london and $50,000 with 350 billion in cuts to medicare and 200 billion in new stimulus and and fracture spending. the republican counter offer has deeper cuts to a medicare and reduces the social security cost of living increase. but it has no tax increases. it raises revenue through closing tax loopholes and this deductions. raising 800 billion over 10 years. does have a what the president is proposing.hite house he immediately rejected the republicans' proposal. the president is saying that he will not accept a proposal without a tax increase for the wealthier americans. it is 27 days until the fiscal cliff. >> u.s. officials say that the white house and its allies are weighing military options to secure serious chemical and biological weapons. this comes after u.s. intelligence reports show that the syrian regimen may be ready and those weapons and may be desperate enough to use them. president barack obama told an aud
to capitol hill to find out the conditions of the looming fiscal cliff. they complain that the white house has not provided them on how the president will curb medicaid and medicare. if the president has been consistent and that he does not want the tax to go for people who are under too much as $50. he is adamant that any new tax revenue must come from--he once rates lowered and was is that and find a middle ground. >> in bay area a news they have released the names of two girls were shot and killed over the weekend in oakland. a 16 year-old girl and a another 15 year-old were found shot to death about 6:00 in the morning in east oakland. they have been hit by multiple gunshot loans. if they stated that they do not have a modem and they do not know why these girls were on the street along. no arrests have been made. >> oakland police are asking for your help. there is a 16 year-old girl walked away from a group home on coolidge ave. if the staff followed her but then they lost sight of her. she is considered at risk because even though she is set at 16 years of a her capacity is of a nine
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